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I don’t think Google removed Homework Help - just buried a menu or two deeper. Google Lens still does the same thing, I think?

And I’m not sure blocking AI agents makes sense as a possibility. If they just control the mouse and keyboard, it’s not like there is metadata about who is controlling it. I assume a login screen gets the exact same text if a human types/pastes it in or an agent does (or the browser autofills, etc.). I suppose detecting inhuman mouse movement the way auto captcha stuff uses that as one signal among tons of others (browser fingerprint, etc.)…but doesn’t seem reliable enough for Canvas to start refusing logins.

I don’t know…maybe there’s a way *if* all the big companies play nice on both the AI side and the LMS side, but that seems really implausible.

And we’ve seen a million “companies”/apps pop up to put a wrapper on ChatGPT to create a cheat website/app, so I imagine if the big AI companies block it all, the open source models will be taken up by some entrepreneurial cheat facilitator who wants to make bank from desperate students clicking on TikTok ads.

Similar issue with the main AI players adding system card instructions to not do homework on an LMS. Some other AI will quickly fill in the gap if they are not competing with the big companies. Plus the companies obviously want to sell AI as relevant to the new workforce and scientific endeavor and have 0% chance of budging on the idea that many university classes will *want*/need to integrate and use AI as part of college training. So they won’t want it to be blockable, I imagine, even if PR about cheating did somehow hurt them a bit (it doesn’t seem to have touched their bottom line yet…)

I know what you mean about online classes being important for many students, but I also worry about the exploitation of those students if colleges keep accepting their money (ie making students take loans out!) and then many students use AI and graduate without useful skills and have a worthless paper + a bunch of debt. It’s hard to blame students who are busy, have imposter syndrome (and the AI makes their writing sound soo much better!), issues with procrastinating, work full time on top of school…like, it would take inhuman self control not to use AI sometimes. (In my data, 60% of the 700+ undergrads I sampled at an R2 had cheated with AI)

And once you use it to escape/avoid those bad feelings (from procrastination, being overwhelmed, imposter syndrome), doing the behavior of pressing that AI button gets negatively reinforced (ie becomes more likely in that situation in the future because it helped in the moment this time). So they get in a bad habit and soon are screwing themselves over, not because they are bad people, but because they are human. And they see their peers do it anyway, and jobs don’t care about things like how the work gets done, yada yada.

But those students end up with a useless piece of paper, can’t get hired because the hiring manager can also just press the ChatGPT button without having to pay a human to do it, and they still have this college debt for an online degree that sounded so helpful for their life as a full time worker or rural resident, but ended up sucking them (some of them anyway) into the temptation of having AI do all the work and them racking up debt.

I don’t know, I worry about online. A lot. And that’s as someone who teaches some sections online and has also tried to get creative with adapting assignments (e.g., https://teachpsych.org/E-xcellence-in-Teaching-Blog/13504139).

Anyway, thanks for the great post. We need to get everyone talking about this soon. I showed examples of agentic AI in Canvas at a couple talks this past week and people had their minds blown. Too few profs know that we’re at this stage already.

Daniel Popescu / ⧉ Pluralisk's avatar

Hey, great read as always, you’re totally on point about the immediate threat these agents pose, though it also makes me wonder if we need to rethink assessment design more brodly than just trying to block the tech.

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